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"I was driving."??? : 1/4/2010
Jacket Master,
Please don't drive and text!

Watching out for Jacket Master

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p and q : 12/30/2009
hee hee hee

yep

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Mind your Ps and Qs : 12/30/2009
Sorry about the type o on the word compassion, You sure don't know how to show it!. I was driving. For your infomation, Several folks on this comment section certainly did give Aledo it's credit. Go to DFWSports and read the thread from the Aledo/Denison Game. We ate our crow and came back here to our little discussion place and this is where we can say what we want about our favorable opinions about our team, Town, games or, whatever. For you to call me out on the Misspelling of a word tells me that your looking for anything to discredit me and the other Denison Fans for being in love with our team. Anything you wanna say on here does'nt have any thing to with what we say or how we feel. So, Show some class and move on somewhere where you are wanted. It's not on here. Go Jackets!!!

Jacket Master

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Jacket Master and Yep : 12/30/2009
It's called, I watch Texas High School football from 5A to 1A from Week 0 until the end of December, and I am not a fan of Sherman or Denison. It might be hard for you to fathom, but we do exist. You guys need to learn how to spell COMPASSION! if you claim to have so much of it. I'm still laughing at the constant big excuses of "we would've beaten them nine out of 10", and "they weren't the better team." BS! YOU WEREN'T THE BETTER TEAM OR YOU WOULD'VE WON THE GAME! THE NEXT NINE GAMES DON'T MATTER. IT'S ALL IN THE NOW! 2009 IS 2009, AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE NEXT YEAR! Please go pick up your jocks and give Aledo its due credit!

Mind your Ps and Qs

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Next Time : 12/29/2009
aledo had better coaching, yep
aledo had better discipline, yep
aledo had better athletes, nope,
aledo was a better team, nope,
Denison beats aledo 9 times out of 10 with hindsight, yep
good year guys. thanks for the heart you showed all year

yep

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Mind your P's an Q's : 12/29/2009
Why are you on here if you don't have a dog in the fight?. Gotta be from Sherman. What have yall done lately?. Compashion runs deep for the Jackets. If you don't like it, Go elsewhere.. It will happen again, deep in the playoffs, not the first round like your used to....Jason, Please put a Sherman football Topic up!!!

Jacket Master

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Under center : 12/29/2009
Gotta go under center Jason! Gotta go under center!

Mind your Ps and Qs

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Third-downs : 12/28/2009
Back from vacation and saw the responses. Always spirited debate when it comes to the Jackets. I went back and looked at my game charts from the game. Denison had the following third down yardage to get in chronological order — 9, 1, inches, inches, 1, 4, 6, 19, 2, 1, 20. That's six situations of two yards or less.
I'll say it again. If you have two all-state lineman, an all-state running back and a great running QB and you don't believe you can get at least two yards in that situation, you don't deserve to win. And on three of them, they got the first. One was the fumbled exchange and the other two were the last two short attempts in the second half. Since they had gone three of four on them, I don't fault anyone for thinking they could get such a small amount of yardage again.

Jason Della Rosa

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Laughing : 12/28/2009
Coming from a true non-biased individual, as I don't have a dog in the Sherman-Denison fight and enjoy watching them both play, I laugh at the coulda-shoulda-woulda-attitude by you Yellow Jacket homers (you admitted it yourself)! You WEREN'T the better team than Aledo, or you would've won the game. I can't stand when whiners (yes that's you too) get on here and say the better team didn't win! I guess you're saying Aledo got lucky twice right? I know you will never give one set of Bearcats credit, but give this set of Cats its collective due and quit making excuses! Yes, Denison could've won state, but it didn't! And if you think politics are non-existent at your school, then think again. It might not be going on right now, but it has before and will happen again!

Mind your Ps and Qs

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Still HAPPY : 12/28/2009
I must say I misread your post. Yes last one to go BCS is 2005 class. I thought you were saying we never put out college players to programs that actually have a ok program. I forgot the mention Rob on the list.

Still Happy Sorry

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Funny stuff : 12/28/2009
Crazy how a simple blog post commending Denison's recent playoff "woes" blew up into all of this. A few interesting points, a few absurd. I am a class of 98 alum, was there for the 44-4 run in 95-97, and my senior class lost 3 games from 8th grade to our senior year total (I think we had 2 ties, lost 2 state championships, and lost to 3A Atlanta our junior year).
First, to those who think Denison coaches make political player choices are clearly misinformed or have a chip on their shoulder for losing a battle in practice. Look no further than our southern border town for a truly "who's your parents" system. (thanks again for keeping Prock in at qb our senior year, b/c his backup was a stud we could NOT stop). Who knows, w/ Kinne, maybe that is over. But believe me, there was no playing favorites when we were there. We busted our rears in practice and the best player started, PERIOD. Our starters changed weekly if we had crappy practices.
Second, the play calling was stangnat...especially after the Area round. After the blowouts in the first few rounds, our coaches must have had some sort of bravado that no one could stop us. And in many cases, they were right. In other cases, it seemed Smith did not want to mix up the blitz packages to keep the opponents offenses fresh. SS's QB ran wild, and it was no secret he was keeping the ball.
Third, good high school programs are made by the coaches. 100% of the time. There are good athletes in nearly every town, and a star player will star for his team good or bad. but a coaching staff makes a team a winner. I think about the class 2 years after mine, and even the next few. Bob Brown mentally checked out, he was no longer interested in coaching, I'm convinced. Our staff got picked clean by other schools, retirements and a costly death (RIP Coach Martin), and the program suffered when all this happened. There wasn't anything special in the water in 1978-80 to make the kids in my class that much better than the next few...the only thing that changed was the coaching staffs. Had Brown replenished the staff w/ more quality like he had in the 90's, that run would've continued. Now, White has done it, he's compiled a solid staff. I think their arrogance cost them a W against Aledo, but it's another step in their learning ladder.
Congrats Jackets, and good luck in college, football or no football.

Go team

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Still Happy : 12/28/2009
I think we agree with the points that you mentioned. 64 teams in 4a to the playoffs. Were you delated after the Aledo game?. That's the feeling i'm talking about. So Close. I am a 100% Jacket Backer Win or lose i'll be there. We have had success winning big games. I hope it continues. I will go ahead and say that Denison has the edge on the Battle of the Axe in 2010. With 4 teams from each district making the playoffs, Well, Denison could have a good chance of returning to the playoffs on a consistant basis. Now where will we be next year district wise?. That will be the next big thing. Feb 2 we will find out. Will we stay put, Go west (hope not) or a new district be formed? what do ya think?? Nice blogging with ya..

Jacket Master

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Jacket Master : 12/27/2009
I agree that it sucks to have gotten as far as some of our teams have gotten only to see them fall short, but the Buffalo Bills comparison is apples to oranges, in my opinion. Those Bills were one of 32 teams (or was it before expansion?). How many teams are there in the state in 4A? The odds of being the best out of 200 or whatever the number is are a lot lower than being the best out of 32. Plus, those Bills teams were able to stay together for years. High school teams have a much higher rate of turnover. As a follower of high school football, when I see teams that are consistently going to the regional round and beyond, I look at them and think "that's a good program" because it is much harder to do. I don't look at them and think they can't "win the big one". And to that, you don't think the Marshall win was a big one? You don't think Sulphur Springs was a big one? How about beating Sherman the last two years for the district title? Is it to the point where winning the title is the only big one out there? We can't recruit. We can't pay kids to come here. We have to work with what we have - and being a small 4A school means we don't have as much as the others do. STILL STILL HAPPY was trying to refute my point about our talent level but I think he solidified it. That we succeed to the level we do is something to be proud of, in my opinion.

Still Happy

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STILL HAPPY HAPPY : 12/27/2009
Using your own list, it's been since 2005 that a player went from Denison to a major college program. Sorry, but Texas State, Utah State (and BTW, Morrison went there because it was the ONLY offer he had) and going to a JUCO aren't what I'm talking about. If we are so full of talent, why is it that you list ONE player going to Texas State (and I had to chuckle at that) as evidence? That right there speaks volumes. It's not unusual for players from Denison to go to the likes of Austin College, Abilene Christian, etc. It IS unusual for them to go to BCS schools. You listed 3 from the 5 seasons previous to this one (if I'm not mistaken, you are talking about Rob Crawley above instead of "Blaine Brawley" - Rob went to UT and was never on scholarship) going straight to a BCS (i.e., major) program and the last of those was in 2005. In other words, YEARS.

Still Happy

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Still Happy : 12/27/2009
Jason Della Rosa wasn't following the Jackets in the 90's So, I don't know if he can understand the feeling that alot of old Yellow Jackets feel. I think part of the stigma that we are facing in Denison Football is The Buffalo Bills Syndrome. We were at the Big Dance three years in a roll in the 90's and failed to produce a State Championship. As time goes by, the pressure is building on everyone. 'Can't win the Big One' talk starts building. I told my buddies in 1984 at the State Championship game which the Jackets won, to, enjoy this moment, We may never see it again. But, We have had our chances. Maybe it will happen But, Maybe it won't. I do love spending my money on playoff games for the Jackets, That atmosphere was great this year. I just want another Big Skin on the wall before i croak!!!

Jacket Master

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Play calling cost the Jackets : 12/27/2009
If you play a team keying on the run and that team shuts down an All-State running back and QB, over and over again, You must have the offense change to loosen-up the Defense so you can be more successful with the run. Come-On Jason, We are all Homers on here, We are some pretty savy football fans too. You can't sell us that bag of goods. Denison made the adjustment against Marshall in the second half Remember? But,not against Aledo.

Jacket Master

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Play Calling : 12/27/2009
I agree with much that has been said about 3rd down and inches and not getting the ball to Reeves. I suggest Cody White put in an under the center package for 3rd and short. I don't think Denison ever went under center all year. Aledo had this in their offense. I like "my guys against yours" on 3rd and short. Handing the ball off deep in the spread allows someone to penetrate and throw you for a loss. Great two years! Should have resulted in a state championship. White did a great job coaching but as someone told me once, no one ever remembers who finished second except those involved. We missed our chance.

Jacket Backer

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PLAY CALLING : 12/26/2009
Jason not talking about the third and inches call,with their running game you have to believe you can get that running the ball.I am talking about the whole flow of the game.Again Reeves one on one with a big cushion and you don't even try to get him the ball and beat one guy.White all but said they underestimated Aledo's defense after the game saying their defense was better they thought.All coach's make mistake's, hate it for the boy's.

DHS 84

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In regards to play-calling : 12/26/2009
I see that several comments are geared against the plays called in the loss to Aledo. If Denison has that backfield and is facing third and short, I can only imagine the outrage if they tried to pass and failed. You have two talents in the backfield, you stick with them. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

Jason Della Rosa

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PLAY CALLING : 12/25/2009
Play calling definatley cost Denison the game.Mundine was hardly thrown at and Reeves had single coverage and an eight to ten yard cushion all game.Do not understand why they did not try to get the ball to Reeves, maybe their best athlete,on some quick screens or slant's and let him try and beat one defender.Aledeo's front seven was very good but they were definatley focused on stopping the run therefore i really beleive Denison could have been more successful throwing the ball.They got up two scores earley and then played not to lose instead of putting the hammer down,that is coaching.

DHS 84

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Play calling cost the Jackets : 12/25/2009
Play Calling against Aledo was one of the decisive factors in our loss in the semis. The third and inches right before half time was Huge!. We have a 6-5 inch Quarterback and the play called puts him in the Shotgun, hands off to DJ, Who gets stuffed for a loss. We could have shredded Aledos secondary But, we waited till desperation to do it. One more thing, Aledo's Defensive Line played disipline Football and won the line of scrimmage. First time all year our O-line was beaten. It does hurt to see a bunch of underclassmen from Aledo win over our seniors. But, the O-Coordinator for Denison did not make adjustments to the passing game. It was mentioned in the stands that the ball was going to DJ and Taylor so much that it was as though those two players were being showcased for college scouts and it cost us a shot at the State Title. Nothing against DJ or Jordan they ran the plays called But it looked like the same thing from 1986? when Reggie Perry was hurt and Joel Luper steped for several games and won and was replaced for Perry in the Reginal round for college scouts attending the game who, watched as Perry failed to produce and was left in for the entire game and we lost. Jacket fans were so upset they were chanting 'We want Luper'... Criswell didn't do anything about it and he left Denison not long afterward. I think sometime coaches do get 'caught up' in this Showcase thing. I think with the way the game went against Aledo, It was very similar to the one in the 80's. Aledo was a game we should have won. No adjustment was made and we all know the results, Aledo 2009 Texas Division 2 State Champs. What a shame for our seniors, Great Season though..

Jacket Master

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Road through Denison : 12/25/2009
Let me put something into this conversation that everyone seems to loose sight of. Denison is the smallest of these 4A teams. When someone wants to point to Austin Westlake, look at the size of the school. After winning against Denison, Westlake went to 5A the next year. The population of the school has much to say about the athletic program. Some of these Metroplex schools have over 2,500 seniors in their graduating classes. What’s the size of Denison’s? Coaching has a lot to do with the way the teams perform but you must have the talent to go all the way to the playoffs. Denison has had more than its share of talent and good coaches. While they may not win a state championship every ten years, they deserve credit for getting as far as they do. Aledo is a suburb of west Fort Worth and its town is a laugh (you should drive through it some time). Aledo has a wealth of kids to draw from (and it is well coached). It should be a 5A school in a few years. Will Denison drop to 3A in a few years? Denison should hold a parade for their 2009 team for getting them as far as they did. All the work they and their support do is a credit to the town.

Old DHS Grad

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DHS : 12/24/2009
And the reason this years class has some many offer is because of the lack of talent they face. Which causes one person (DJ Jones) to have a break out JR year. Scouts come and see others doing well vs. guys that will never play college football. Or let only prob play at Denison. All it takes is one guy to get everybody looked at. Happens every where all the time. In every sport.

STILL HAPPY HAPPY

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still happy : 12/24/2009
We have not went years without putting out a player to major schools. Just from 04
2004 Anthony Hines Texas Tech Vinny Rhodes Baylor
2005 Corey Robertson IOWA Blaine Brawley was a Texas AM for a bit. Not to mention the other 5 that went on to play and two that had offers from Kansas after JUCO.
2006 Ryan Taylor Tyler JUCO-UCLA and 3 others
2007 Stanley Morrison - Utah State
2008 Brian Lilly -Texas State
Thats just football
Baseball put of more than 11 people to not major programs but still to the next level since Norman left in 03. You can not expect D-1 schools to show up when you cant win. Since the 05 and 07 Class the highest recruited played will and should be JORDAN TAYLOR. The kid is the best athlete to ever walk the halls of DHS. If he played all sports I promise he could go D-1 in all

STILL HAPPY HAPPY

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DHS : 12/24/2009
I agree with the post below. I being a former DHS athlete know first hand what you are talking about. I played football in middle school and stopped in high school because of these reasons. Playing people based on what their brothers did for the program and who's daddy does what. These other programs at the school are jokes. The only one doing much to get better besides football would be basketball. I sat the bench most of my high school baseball career because of football players and favorites, not because of a lack of TALENT. We missed two playoff births in 04 and 05 because of it. I am now a college pitcher being looked at by pro scouts and it is no thanks to the Denison Athletic Department. If I ever make it Denison can stick it. I did all my recruiting, I could not even get the coaches to give me my stats to give to recruiters. CHANGE IS NEEDED. IT CAN RUIN A KID'S LIFE. For some its all they have in life (HS Sports), and its put down the drain by these coaches and this program

2005 GRAD

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RGT : 12/23/2009
Losing in the playoffs to 10 state champs is an incredible stat but odly enough Austin Westlake has accomplished the same feat since 1985. They did it 3 times in 4A from 85-91 and 7 times in 5A since. They have accomplished the feat 5 times in the 2000's.

Stat Guy

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Wow... : 12/22/2009
I don't even know where to begin with what "Still a JacketBacker" wrote. To your point on the egos of the players - of course you saw it in the 60s and see it today. It happens everywhere - athletes are revered in the school's culture and thus have egos. It's been a storyline in just about every movie dealing with high school ever made. To act like it's just Denison is obtuse at best. As for talent, if we are so flush with talent year in and year out, why are this year's seniors so exceptional with all the offers they've gotten from D-1 schools? We go can years at a time without a single player getting a scholarship to a bigtime school. Discipline - yes, this year's team had issues with penalties, but what about the discipline that comes with working hard in the offseason and practice? Or do you think they are all just a bunch of loafers that use their amazing talent that colleges somehow don't want to win games? And the complaints about coaching... I don't even know what to say about that. You go 29-3 over two years with undisciplined egomaniacs and somehow the coaching is bad too. Nonsense. I get that people are upset that this team fell short, but to act like it's a systemic problem that we haven't won more championships when probably 90% of the 4A schools in the state would love to have the run we've had over the last 25 years is absurd.

Still Happy

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Denison Athletics : 12/22/2009
I realize this is a long statement for which i apologize. However it's time this situation is addressed. Some people will not agree with this, that's your right. It is however the main reason we are just a stop on the road to state. I have been a yellow jacket fan since the late 60's. Why can we not make it all the way? I think for several reasons, talent not being one of them. Discipline, egos and coacing. Discipline and egos on part of the players. Coaching. Our entire athletic system football, baseball, softball and basketball, from pee-wee, BMac and High school plays players based on who you are. The kids know it, the parents know it, the coaches know it(although they will never admit it). Thus the discipline and ego comes to play. Until we can stop playing favorites Denison will always be just a stop on the road in any sport. Denison is not short on talent. Denison has great talent. Some of the best talent walks the halls of school never playing sports. Why? Because they know little johnny or little suzy is going to play because of who the parents are. I saw it in the 60's, i'm still seeing it in 2009. How do you fix this problem? I have my opinions but what do i know. I'm not a "Coach". Just a fan.

Still a JacketBacker

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CSG : 12/21/2009
My point was more about how Denison not only lost to a good team or very good team but was knocked up specifically by the eventual state champion. The odds of that happening as often as it has are pretty amazing, as opposed to a team with so many appearances over a long stretch losing to teams who never even get that far, let alone being the last one standing.

Jason Della Rosa

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Road goes through Aledo : 12/21/2009
I am a Denison Grad and played on the 96 and 97 teams that lost in the state championship game. Those days we played a great team La Marque was hands down more athletic and at the time had the highest paid coach in the state of Texas and he was hands down a better schematic coach than Bob Brown. This is no insult to Brown who was a great coach. Any time you get 3 rounds deep there are no bad teams so of course YOUR NOT GOING TO LOSE TO A BAD TEAM! The mid 90's Denison lost to a more talented team without a question. But Aledo didnt have better talent than Denison! Denison was out coached and played undisciplined football for the majority of the game. The 2003 team that lost to wylie was also more talented than their opponent. If you want to write columns about the road goes through Denison, you should realize that Aledo just won the state championship with a team whos stars will return for two more seasons. Aledo probably has the best coaching staff in 4A, although it might be a toss up with Lake Travis. Perhaps you should write a story about how many times Denison lost to less talented teams.

Commen Sense Guy

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